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Re: Andre Gide


Message written by

Craig
November 08, 2004 at 12:05:32:

In Reply to
Andre Gide
posted by
Jennifer
November 08, 2004 at 02:54:14:

 
Hello Curious Jenn,

You wrote about this statement: "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."

The fallacy is looking outside of yourself for an answer. Here's why. Prior to the fifteenth century in the West, the interpretation many would have given would have been, "This means believe those who are looking to the Priest for God's blessing and shun those who say they've comfort outside the Church." For a Zen Buddhist, this might be a Koan, an ambiguous statement that helps the contemplator to go beyond the limitations of language and the physical world. It has to be experienced, not understood, and so it would have no expressible meaning. For a materialist scientist, it might mean "Trust those who seek empirical, replicable evidence and doubt those who say they don't need further corroboration." And the cynic might say "It means the acts of always asking questions and listening for answers are valid life endeavors, but everything's meaningless so if you think you've found an answer you're a fool."

So whose truth is right? Well, of course they're all right, and they're all wrong, for anyone else but the speaker. But the real issue is, will the people speaking the words of the interpretation be happier, more content, more loving, closer to others, and satisfied in themselves? Those are the real issues.

You also wrote this:
Another quote of hers I just read was "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time...."

A near-death experience can happen in a few minutes, and they're life-changing. The induced after-death experiences we've been seeing usually take place in five to ten seconds, and they banish grief and trauma. She would be speaking a Truth if she wrote "I don't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the short for a very long time." When she uses "One" to mean other people, she extends herself too far.

You wrote,
To me the truth comes from such a larger picture than that of our own ego that in order to find "The Truth" I need to know and understand that nothing is impossible, If I think it and know than it will be.

Yes. Your Truth inspires me. It helps me to believe in myself as you believe in yourself. Thank you for that. We are teachers and learners, and we teach by sharing what we have learned. If your truth is what I need at this time in my life, its harmony will resonate in my soul. Only I can learn. Teaching just means being open, honest, and accepting as the teacher shares what is meaningful to her.

You wrote,
I change the answers by the questions I ask

Your thinking is in good company. Werner Heisenberg, the famous physicist who was one of the pioneers of quantum mechanics, wrote "What we observe is not nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning." This is what Immanuel Kant wrote about the subject: "We know nothing more than our mode of perceiving [things], which is peculiar to us, and which, though not of necessity pertaining to every animated being, is so to the whole human race."

Love and peace, Craig
 



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